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« on: January 24, 2010, 09:42:21 PM »

Hi all,

New to here, just joined.  I have been married for about 22 years.  I have never had an affair very handsome man.  Over the past 22 years my wife and and always set up Saturday as a date night.  She told me long ago that she was not good and being the one to plan these things out or initiated touch or sex for that matter.  I am now approaching my 50s and starting to change my ways.  I want that to happen, is that so bad?  I also want some spice in my life some role playing dress up lingerie not just wearing a passion killer to bed pulling that up and calling it a night ( which happens a lot) 

We have gotten to the point where sex is starting to really affect our marriage to the point I am really thinking about divorce.  Please give me some advice?  We have gone to couple therapy but there are some really wacky ones out there.  By role play I mean I could be a massage therapist and then turn bad or she could be an airline flight attendant that kind of thing nothing evil. 

Again please help.

Thanks

Rob
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 09:35:59 AM »

Rob,

Maybe you need to help your wife. By that I mean, don't just go to her and say "I want spice in our sex life and here's what I want YOU to do" but approach it in a way that she won't feel that you're attacking her. She may have been raised conservative when it comes to sex and feels that if she does anything out of the ordinary, then it's wrong. You mentioned that she's not good at initiating or touching. Well, that should give you a heads up that you need to work with her on that. I know that we're open to do almost anything with our spouse sexually, but a lot of us do have hang-ups and I know it's frustrating.

Just keep in mind that she is a woman, she will be sensitive about this, and it may take a few times (or more) of talking to her to get her to open up to the idea. But BE PATIENT! All of this coming from a woman's perspective :)

As for you thinking about divorce over this, I understand that this is a big frustration for you, but I don't see this as a means for divorce. There has been no infidelity, and I don't remember the bible mentioning "not having a good sex life" as a means for divorce. I'm NOT putting you down! I understand this is a very important part of a marriage! But, don't let this end a marriage of 22 years!!

Just help her. Approach it as something that both of you can do together. Say something like "I really want to share new experiences with you. I think it would be fun if we..." That way, she's not seeing it as her fault. And start out slow...don't try anything and everything on one night! It sounds like she'll have to really warm up to the idea of all of this (although it's not out of the ordinary) so remember to not be pushy. Even if you have to initiate it more and actually tell her what to do...she may not have a clue or may feel uncomfortable doing it and that may be holding her back as well.

There is a book that may help as well. It's called "Becoming One: Emotionally, Spiritually & Sexually." In it "you'll learn step-by-step how to nurture intimacy with your spouse at all levels of your being." You can go to http://www.joebeam.com/becexp.htm to preview and order it!

It has won awards and is a best selling book in the Christian market. I really believe this will help! And it will show your wife that there are a lot of things she CAN explore with you and it's perfectly ok :)

All this is just my opinion! So, you can definitely take it or leave it! But, I do hope things get better and you really think about what divorce would do to the both of you...and your kids if you have any. That's just not the way to go! Look at all you have invested in these past 22 years. Divorcing over a bad sex life is so ridiculous! Especially when it CAN be fixed. You just have to approach it the right way.

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 12:36:21 AM »

I understand and thanks for your advise.  There are so many part to this puzzle you just wouldn't understand.  Nights we have picked for a date night she falls asleep on the couch and i just go to bed.  At times we have argued over this.  Its just not working the easy ways you have mentioned but I do respect your opinion and I will order the book.  Hey might work who really knows.   Maybe sometimes we thinks someone has something out there that we haven't tried I have tried all that you have mentioned many, many time.

God bless



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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 07:27:56 AM »

Well, I hope things get better soon! Do order the book, I believe it will help.

Joanna
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 07:39:37 PM »

Most of that sexy lingerie that men like on women is extremely uncomfortable. Thongs as an example feels like a wedgie.

The same with this role-playing. Stewardess and message therapist? Just thinking about that seems horrific to me. Isn't there some sort of compromise you could offer. Like getting her a pretty, feminine cotton nightie, that isn't uncomfortable, and doesn't make her feel like "the dirty 'ho' or worry about her fat and cellulite?

Maybe instead of role-playing, you could change your recreational activities to include more real life adventure. Like a canoe trip, a private plane trip, or something that takes you both out of your normal zone of activity and comfort level.

When you plan this getaway, keep in mind that women esteem men for their strength and protection and give yourself the opportunity to be her hero in this real life adventure.

What I'm saying is-- a message therapist pervert? Yikes! Thinking about that too long just might make me frigid.

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 03:41:02 PM »

You said, "She told me long ago that she was not good at being the one to plan these things out or initiated touch or sex for that matter."  Have you ever figured out why this is the case?  She sounds like she doesn't have any confidence in herself or that she's maybe afraid of rejection....maybe some past hurts....just don't come across as demanding to her when it comes to sex b/c that will push her away as well.  My husband is like that in the sense that he's not good at planning things out - I have to plan most everything out simply b/c of our personality differences and also b/c his family never did anything growing up....so if you do all the planning, don't read into that b/c it's probably b/c she just doesn't know what to do or feels she's not creative enough to plan it....she could also be afraid of you not liking it....so there could be a lot of reasons there....but talk to her in a loving manner and sit down with her early some time and just have a good talk about some ideas of what each other would like to do...stuff like that.  Share your feelings with her and if you get a vibe that she's not liking them....back off and let her know that no matter what you are still in this marriage for the long haul - she needs to know you are still in it even if you feel like you aren't - make sure she feels that security from you.  In order to get anywhere she needs to feel and have that to move forward if that makes any sense. 

Also, if she is falling asleep on the couch - she's probably like me - not a night person.  If she's a morning person like me, I would be excited to have sex with my husband that day, I'd be planning out maybe what I could wear that night, etc., but as the day went on, I would get tired from running around or whatever....as soon as by the time he would come to bed or turn off the TV around 10:30, I would be too tired to have sex and then he would be left disappointed.  After 9:00, I'm usually too tired for sex, too tired for anything really b/c I just want to crash.  If I'm sitting too long before I go to bed, I get tired immediately.  Maybe you could do something fun for your date night or active that wouldn't put her to asleep.  Every time I watch a movie after 9:00, I go out.  So it sounds like to me, she's too tired by the time you two get to sex. 
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