You said you had talked to Keith, right?

I think calling him again and asking him what the next thing is to do would be the best bet! I am sure that he is more than happy to help you out and will help you try to get her to the workshop.

Thanks :) I talked to him last week..I'm just trying to figure out how to get her to go get coffee with me or something since she's refused to reply to any of my emails for past 6 weeks...he advised to try and do it in person

she's definitely moved on in her head and we really got nothing keeping us connected anymore except a piece of paper so it won't be easy but i'll do my best

i like torturing myself so i keep thinking if she will marry this guy...under normal circumstances i don't think she would have ever thought twice about dating this guy...something that used to be important to her were that we were both the same ethnicity, religion, culture, etc and the new guy is completely different in all regards...and her parents have told her they don't approve and she continues to lie to them that it's happening and she used to respect and listen to them about pretty much everything...it's just mind boggling how much she's change from what she used to be..alright rant over

just an interesting observation...i've read 100s of stories probably by now about specific examples of affairs...it's so interesting how EVERY cheating spouse acts exactly the same way in almost every regard...how it starts, how the cheating spouse acts, the lies and how they lie, the blameshifting, saying the affair is not the reason they are leaving etc etc....this would be a really interesting niche for a relationship psychologist although how one would go about doing empirical studies would be difficult