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« on: September 26, 2009, 11:02:38 PM »

What are some thoughts on so-called Facebook affairs? That's where you reunite with an old flame from highschool or college and at first you two just "catch up." But then you get closer and possibly too close to the point of having an emotional affair or even a full blown affair using Facebook as you secret place.

Why do you think tools like Facebook make it easier for that to happen than just meeting someone face to face?

Does anyone have any experience with friends who've gone through this? What are your thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 04:56:10 PM »

Well our therapist feels that facebook is a no no. Like asking for trouble. In our case classmates.com ended up being one of the routes for the affair. It all starts out as innocent but the more you re-connect with old schoolmates the more you begin to bond with them and see the shortcomings in your other half. Life always looks better when its not your own.....
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2009, 10:18:15 PM »

Facebook has ruined my marriage of almost 20 years. My wife "reconnected" with old boy friends and even started innocently flirting with a stranger. They all got out of control. I'll never be the same, I'll never be able to trust a woman that way again. I've never understood the facination of "catching up" with an old flame. If it is passing by and accidental, sure, fine, spend 5 minutes. But DON'T exchange contact info, don't meet up for "innocent" coffee or lunch someday. Think about it, whether it be online or face to face, you are doing something YOU WOULDN'T DO WITH YOUR SPOUSE SITTING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO YOU.  That is keeping secrets from your spouse, keeping secrets is lying. Lying kills marriage....period.

I've been doing some research on this, it is AMAZING the amount of affairs and divorces that are related to Facebook alone....FACEBOOK. 79% of the cheaters are women.

Now...I know that I had a part in it as well, after so many years, I wasn't doing the things that I should be doing to ensure she knows how I feel about her, how important and special she is. But...there is zero, zero, zero zero reasons to have an affair and that includes online emotional affairs. Actually, to be honest, I would rather my wife had gone out with some friends one night, got a little drunk and had sex in the parking lot with a stranger than to have the emotional affairs she had via Facebook.

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2009, 12:21:15 PM »

I have some friends who's marriage is in trouble b/c of facebook...won't say which spouse got involved with an old classmate, but it happened and it was emotional and now their marriage is on the verge of ending. It is bad when people abuse sites like this, b/c on the other hand it is a good way to keep in touch with family and old friends who you grew up with ect. It's just when things start getting too "personal" when you're catching up with an old friend that's when it get's shakey. Catching up with old friends in itself isn't bad, it's when you start taking it too far. And I WISH people could see the warning signs for when it is getting to that point.

I've been on fb for a while now, and so has my husband and we've both reconnected with old friends. But we know the lines that do not need to be crossed and we don't go there!

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2009, 12:46:15 PM »

I totally get re-connecting with old friends.

But I don't see a real compelling reason to re-connect with old flames. Sure, it could be all innocent, but the potential for something bad is much higher. I guess it should all be fine if you only do exactly what you would do if your significant other were sitting right next to you.

Now...I have also seen first hand when my wife re-connected with an old friend, just a friend and then one of them starts down the road of "Not sure if you knew this but I always felt this way......" or "Did you ever wonder what would have happened if we.....?"

Slippery slope!

Look, the past is the past...yes stay in touch with friends and family, but so many people, especially married couples with and without children take the present for granted. I know I did and I regret it very much. Live every day to the fullest. Think about all the things you are grateful of. Most importantly ask yourself this:

What is more important than my values, my relationship with those that I love and love me, my commitments and responsibilities?
  • Is my health more important? yes it is, otherwise you can be there for them as you need to.
  • Is my ego more important?
  • Are my secrets more important?
  • Is my <insert favorite social networking site> more important?

Regarding Facebook... a recent study showed that the average U.S. Facebook user has 120 friends, of which they really only know 20, the other 100 are just old schoolmates or acquaintances; and of those 20, the average American only really has 3 close friends. So...do you need a social networking site to foster your relationships with your closest friends? REAL friends are hard to come by, real hard and even harder to keep. Just like spouses, it takes action to show your love and care of friends. Not a stupid virtual gift on a social networking site.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 10:41:31 PM »

Here's an article by Joe Beam on Facebook or online affairs.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 12:26:34 AM »

I found out last week that my wife had an affair with someone she met on facebook. As always, it started off as a friend she could talk to. After a while the conversations turned more personal, about me, and then flirty. Soon, it moved from FB to texting and phone calls. I didn't check the records because I had no reason not to trust my wife. After 2 months of texting she drove to see him under the guise of visiting an old female friend from school that she connected with on facebook. They shared a kiss that night. 3 days later she told me she wanted to check on her dad that wasn't feeling well. It sounded reasonable to me, so of course I offered no objection. The night that she was out of town she turned the emotional affair into a physical one. 4 days later I found out. She told me everything. She explained that she didn't worry about the cell records because she didn't care if I found out. Our relationship had become stagnant for the past year and she was dealing with depression from losing her job from economic cutbacks about 7 months ago. I was oblivious to how unhappy she was and didn't offer much in the form of communication. I realize that I played a part in this by not giving her the attention, affection, and communication that she desired. In the next 48 hours we talked more than we had in the past few months. She decided that she wanted to work things out, but had to return to him to tell him in person. I could see the need for that type of closure, so I didn't object. It was the worse time of my life. Not knowing if she would return or not. She did return yesterday and said that it was over. Part of the deal was no more communication and she agreed. I know that she has extreme guilt over this and it seems that the emotional affair is hurting each of us just as much as the physical.
I've been through a roller-coaster of emotions in the last week and at this point I'm not always sure which way is up. For this reason, I have a few questions that I'm not sure how to deal with.
1. I asked her tonight if she removed him as a friend. She said no. Her explanation was...he was like a drug to her. She feels that if she has the option to talk to him, but doesn't she is winning, but if I "force" her to remove him then she may feel the need to have that back. I waivered and told her that she should not delete him. It would mean more when she said that she was ready to do it on her own. I can kind of understand her logic, which is why I waivered. Am I crazy for not having her delete him immediately on the basis of what has transpired? It should also be mentioned that I have no doubt she wants to work things out. I feel that she is here for the right reasons.
2. I'm the one walking on egg shells around her and it seems that logically it should be her. I see the fact that this isn't an affair that occurred a while back and was recently found out. I also see that she was ready to leave and I was the one that wanted her back.
3. Is accepting the past for what it is, knowing that it can't be changed, unhealthy if its to the point that I don't want to talk about it..only more forward?

I'm trying to set aside my ego as much as possible here, but I'm starting to wonder where my limits are. I also believe that we should live in the now and try not to pay attention to the past. Visualizing the way things will be in the future helps me stay optimistic.
I know that it won't be easy, only that it will be worth it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 10:48:57 PM »

Philip it's not your fault. Of all the treatments available for lack of communication in a marriage, depression, etc., infidelity is not one of them.

The reason he is 'like a drug to her' is because he is a drug, literally. Internal drugs being released by talking with someone who knew your old friends and surroundings and what things were like back in the 'good ole days' is one of the reasons Facebook affairs are so common. In fact, that's probably the reason she believed a lot of the BS he was telling her.

Not that that is an excuse, there is no excuse for that. You are either in a marriage for the long haul or you aren't. Right now she may feel pretty stupid because her 'closure' likely turned out to be him telling her "No, sorry, I guess I'm not ready for a long-term relationship' and could be what's causing the egg-shell feeling between you two. While it's still fresh get it ALL out in the open.

Then yes, drop it like a rock and move on. But also keep in mind this is a good time to reevaluate your relationship, set new standards that will allow the two of you to get back into a healthy marriage.

As far as YOU are concerned, decide which parts of this whole ordeal were places where you made mistakes in the relationship, vow to yourself not to make them again, and allow yourself to move on.

Trust takes a while to repair once it's broken so don't let yourself feel like you are spying on her by checking texts and internet logs and request, for the time being anyway, that her passwords are written down at the computer so you can have free reign with the computer and her phone. I think that's reasonable considering what's taken place, don't you? She needs to get back on track, and you have to help her get there.
(If there is any resistance to this request then you will have to decide for yourself if you are able to go through this again.)

I'm really sorry for your pain and I wish upon you Hope for your marriage.

Sincerely,  Chef Sean
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 11:05:58 PM »

Wow, you seem like you have bent over backwards. Letting her go see him to "tell him in person." No offense meant to her, but she has lied a few times about her intentions when she left. I guess I'd be suspicious.

And I think she should remove him as a friend on Facebook. She has to quit him cold turkey. He doesn't need to see any breathing room in terms of another fling or continued relationship with her. All contact, or easy paths to contact should be removed. Especially if "he's like a drug to her." You don't leave heroin and a syringe on the dresser of a recovering heroin addict.

My opinions there. Hope they help but you're free to take them or leave them. Hope things improve.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 04:40:32 PM »

I agree with pappabear - your wife needs to remove the man as a facebook friend - period. 

Joe Beam recommends that people who have had affairs with coworkers should quit their jobs and find employment elsewhere and even move to another city to get away from the lover.  Yes, it is that important to put as much distance between the unfaithful spouse and their lover.  So, removing the man from facebook, cell phone, etc. is a must.

To every extent possible, the temptation needs to be removed - for her sake as well as yours.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 03:40:47 PM »

Would you be willing to give us an update? Let us know how things are going?
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2010, 07:54:25 AM »

Sorry its taken so long for me to update, but here is where we are now....

It has been a long road in a short amount of time, but things are getting much better. I look at our relationship as phases since the affair.
Phase I - The process of the two of us disconnecting over a long period of time which resulted in the affair. After a weekend of talking she decided that she wanted to be here, but not for me, for her daughter. She did go to see him and end it in person, but it didn't give her the closure she thought it would.
Phase II - She came home and we started to work on our marriage. At this point I wasn't aware that she was only her for her daughter nor did I care. We started the process of really communicating and things started to get better. We went to our camp in the country for the first time. This is where she planned the original meeting and then decided to have the affair. That Sat. night she called him again. She immediately came and told me. She said that it was out of habit more than anything and was truly sorry. We talked about this and I told her that I needed to know she wanted to be here. If she didn't, I couldn't continue this process. She agreed it was a mistake and wanted to work things out. On, Dec. 22 we were preparing to go to a Christmas Eve church service...the first ever for us as a couple. As we were preparing to go I could tell that something was wrong. We talked about her feelings and she said that she was feeling like she was in a cage and didn't know if she could do this. The guilt was eating her up inside. I told her that I thought this day may come and I told her she should go. I thanked her for trying the past 2 weeks and that it meant alot to me that we were able to be somewhat happy again. At the end of that conversation she said that's what she needed to hear. She said she needed to make a call and I should finish getting ready for church. She called him, but had to leave a voice mail. She said not to expect anymore calls that she was trying to make her marriage work. In hindsight...at this point she is here for us and not just her daughter. She still has thoughts of him, but honestly wants them out of her head.
Phase III - We are really working hard on our relationship. I'm doing the little things that I always thought were meaningless. I'm calling just to say I love you, buying her flowers on a weekly basis, and really opening up to her. She isn't doing much more than working through her own issues and we are going to church on a regular basis. We have come a long way in a short time and things are looking up. In hindsight...she realizes that she can't have both of us and she is really in love with me. During this phase the thoughts of him start to fade even more from both of our minds. On 12/30 she calls him, but hangs up before the call registers...she doesn't tell me about this one...yet. On New Years weekend we take our first unplanned road trip and have a great weekend. She realizes that we can be spontaneous and fun and still be a married couple. This weekend did wonders for our relationship. on 1/5 she gets a call from the friend she stayed with while she was having her 1 night affair. Her friend tells her that there was a note on her door wondering if she was pregnant. She calls him to let him know that she isn't. That call lasts for 10 min and then there's another a few minutes later for 11 min. She doesn't tell me about this either....yet. The following week I have a feeling that she's not being honest about something and I find out how to check our home phone log. I find out about the calls on 1/5 and I confront her. She denies it over and over and refuses to tell me. I eventually tell her how I know for sure and she comes clean. I explain that part of my distrust is because she wouldn't stop denying it until I proved that I knew for sure. I explained that if she had come clean without me explaining how I knew it would have been better, but I am glad that she told me. Later that night I told her that I still feel like there's something she's not telling me. That's when I find out about the call on 1/30. At this point she decides she wants to cut her hair...a new her a new hairstyle is the way she put it. She did and it looks great. It was a symbol to her more than anything.
Phase IV - We have been more open with each other than ever before. A week or so ago she started to pull away and we talked about it. This was the first time that we have really talked about our lives immediately as it was happening. She told me that she was totally in love with me, but that made her vulnerable and her natural reaction was to pull away. I explained that we can't get to the next level in our relationship without being vulnerable. That being vulnerable just means that you really love someone and you would be hurt if they weren't there. That is what love is all about. Without vulnerability there can't be true love. It made sense to her and things have been even better ever since. We are still going to church regularly and are scheduled to be baptized together next weekend.

A few other notes...

I'm worried that her being baptized is just another symbol. I don't know that she is far enough along in her walk with Christ to get the full impact of the baptism, but on the other hand I don't want to discourage her in anyway.
She seems to be most worried about the fact that I will "wake up" on day and realize that I can't deal with what happened. Her guilt fades and comes back from time to time and we try to work though it.
I'm to the point where I don't really see what else I can do. I've put myself out there, become vulnerable, started talking, started listening, and renewed my walk with God. I'm not really sure how much more I can give. I know I'm not perfect and I know there are things that I don't always do correctly, but I feel I'm giving my all.

Comments are appreciated.

Thank you all for your support. Having this forum to vent kept me from exploding inside. I appreciate everyone's advice and it means alot that you would take the time to do so. Thank you so very much. God Bless you all.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 09:06:03 AM »

Philip,

I'm very glad that things have opened up between the two of you and she seems like she's really trying! As for her getting baptized, I think that's great! It may have some meaning of symbolism in it, that maybe she wants to be washed clean and have a brand new start. But isn't that what it's all about? ;)  But I'm sure she has the knowledge to know what it truly means and I'm sure she's doing it for the right reasons.

As for her feeling that you'll wake up one day and not be able to handle it, I think you just need to reassure her. Look at what you've done so far to keep her and your marriage together! If that's not a testament to your dedication then I don't know what is. Just remind her that you love her and you're not going anywhere.

Just keep up what you're doing!
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2010, 04:59:55 PM »

it is true facebook is awful for relationships it gives way for emotional affairs and they are happening even if you think it starts out innocent it crosses the line in many ways
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 10:03:51 AM »

I think the whole "friends" thing is deceiving and borderline ridiculous.  Most of these people are not friends at all..they are old friends from our youth who are NOT THE same person we used to know at all!  Most of the time we wouldn't know them if we passed them on the street...how can that be a friend. It gives us all a sense of false intimacy. Just because you knew someone in your youth does not make them someone you want to divulge marriage details with.
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