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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2009, 05:24:26 AM »

Hi LKLD

I would read and take-to-heart Joanna's post below, it really does make a lot of sense.

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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2009, 10:42:18 AM »

LKLD,

Breakinfree might have offended you, but he likely did say what he said out of concern and wanting you to hear what he thought to be the truth.

His view represents a good number of Christians, but I think what he says contradicts the Bible. The Bible actually says that if you're in the situation you're in, that you should NOT go back to the previous spouse because you have already married another and been with them. God actually calls it "detestable." And I suspect it's because of the reasons stated, that it would only break up another family.

The Bible says:

If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance. (Deuteronomy 24:1-4)

Plus, there's no passage in the Bible that talks about "invalid" marriages. When Jesus spoke with the woman at the well He said that she had 5 husbands and the one she was living with at the time wasn't even her husband. He didn't say that only the first marriage was valid because that's not true.

Divorce is a sin. Just like fornication, stealing or whatever else. Ask forgiveness and move on. But if God thinks it's "detestable" to go back to the previous spouse, I sure wouldn't do it.

And now it looks like LKLD deleted all of her posts which makes this thread make no sense. She had said that she had children in her current marriage, and that her husband was also married previously and that his wife was married previously and that all those marriages had children. She stated the obvious, that breaking up families is not the answer.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2009, 02:16:44 PM »

The Bible also teaches us that the Old Testament is the Old Covenant, the Law of the Jews and if we choose to live by it we will also be judged by it.

Jesus made a New Covenent in His Blood and I quote from the Bible, the author being the Holy Spirit, so go argue with Him. Maybe people who have been the cause of destrusction should think twice before they involve themselves in a discussion between people who have had their entire lives destroyed by adultery and patronising them telling people they can 'feel' their pain, let me tell you, unless you have had this done to you, only then will you know what that pain feels like.

Mark 10
2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"
3 "What did Moses command you?" he replied.
4 They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."
5 "It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied.
6 "But at the beginning of creation God `made them male and female.'
7 `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8 and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one.
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
11 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.
12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

I DID NOT contradict the Word of God at all. And may I also point out that Paul's letters to the churches had much to say on the subject if anybody can be bothered to read them.

If we don't follow Jesus then let's not inult the Lord by calling ourselves Christians or translated followers of Christ, God does not lie if it were not so he would not have said it.

I did not intend to cause ill will but merely state what God has to say on the subject.

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2009, 05:01:21 PM »

Let's not forget Matthew:

Matthew 19:9(KJV) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

A few parallel translations:

Matthew 19:9 (NIV) I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19:9 (NAS) And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19:9 (ISV) I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19:9 (GWT) I can guarantee that whoever divorces his wife for any reason other than her unfaithfulness is committing adultery if he marries another woman."

 Matthew 19:9 (YLT) And I say to you, that, whoever may put away his wife, if not for whoredom, and may marry another, doth commit adultery; and he who did marry her that hath been put away, doth commit adultery.


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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2009, 02:31:59 PM »

I've been busy getting my divorce documents and witness statements together, looks like I missed a huge battle. Anyway, an update for you all. I had my wife served on Monday, the 2nd. I never heard any word from her, but I received a call later that night from a concerned friend who overheard my wife, her boyfriend and her meddling friend plotting to file false domestic violence charges against me so she can have me thrown out of the house and get the kids. I am watching my back, but I guess destroying my life and my dreams were not enough for these three, now they have to resort more lies and deception to hide the truth from the law. They can not hide the truth from the Lord. At some point, they will have to answer to Him. That is good enough for me, I need no earthly revenge. I am praying still for God to wake her up. I do not want this divorce, never did, probably never will. I have to think of the example she is setting for our children, and that is why I can not continue to try and save this marriage on my own. 1 1/2 years since I discovered her affair, she's only gotten worse, it's time for both of us to move on.
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2009, 04:32:24 PM »

Macyr, wow! It's hard for me to imagine how people can twist and manipulate situations to how they want it to be. And pretty much flat out lie about things! Unbelievable. Well, it's probably for the best that you're divorcing her b/c she's definately not in the right state of mind right now and she's not the one controlling her thoughts.

Prayers for you and keep us updated!
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 12:48:18 PM »

Joanna,
Sorry I have been scarce in these parts lately. I've been scarce everywhere the past few weeks. I had my wife served just before Halloween. We had our first court date the 13th of November. I have to give all praise to God that the judge saw through her lies and deceit. She tried to say I was violent and abusive (never happened, never would) over the past 15 years. Her only evidence was that she's seeing a domestic abuse counselor, which she started a week before our court date, a week after she had been served. The judge indicated she had issues with the truth and awarded me the house and both of our children, pending the investigation by the Guardian Ad Litem. I do not fear that investigation, it will show that she has been an absent mother, placing her boyfriend above the children many times in the past 2 years. She moved out the day following the court appearance, and has made very few efforts to spend time with the girls since. She promises them she'll come by or spend the night, then change at the last moment. I do not believe she realizes she is not only hurting her chances to get custody, but also destroying the girls faith and trust in her. Satan has an exceptionally strong grip on her soul right now. I pray often that the Lord will help her break free, show her what she has done and continues to do, and send sombody to teach her to forgive and show her how to soften her heart. Constant prayer keeps me going, my children are the most affected right now, and I would not have put them through this if it hadn't been my last resort.
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2010, 06:12:20 AM »

macyr

I'm glad to read that the judge saw through the lies of your wife. I hope that you are continuing well with your healing process. Even though my soon to be ex husband (my divorce finalises on 24th Feb) read your letter, I'm sad to say it had no effect. He continued to see this woman and still does and still lies about it. I thought this may be of interest to you; (long story I will be as brief as possible)

My ex husband is 38, he had symptoms, saw a doctor, after extensive tests it was discovered that he had closing of the arteries and was taken in to have angioplasty performed. The surgery was unsuccessfull. The sugeon could not get the metal rods through the arteries in his heart because they were like concrete (words of the surgeon) and at such a young age has to undergo a triple heart bypass in a couple of weeks. Even this has not brought him to repentence!

I find it interesting that the bible speaks so much about the hardening of the heart and it seems thats literally what's happened.

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