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strugglingwife
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« on: October 04, 2011, 09:04:57 AM »

I am struggling. I have been married for 16 years with two children. I have a past that has led to distrust and communication issues. Parents divorced when I was young. I was sexually abused more than once. I just recently discovered this blocked sexual abuse past with the help of a counselor. My marriage has had ups and downs, more downs than I wanted to admit. I just wanted to do what I needed to do, never thinking about how it affect others. Because of my past, I shut out people. I was always the caretaker, peace keeper, didn't deal with conflict. Took the easy road. I have not been supportive of my husband. I seemed to have lived in a fantasy world. A world where high school sweethearts got married, had kids, and lived happily ever after. But now, my husband has become frustrated with my lack of empathy, lack of communication, lack of appreciation for him.

Within the last 4 months, my husband has found a "relationship" with a women whom he has never met in person. They started out texting "as friends". He was honest to me in telling me that it was progressing to more than just a simple friendship. I freaked. I was not open to his honesty. It hurt. I became jealous and suspicious. I noticed more and more, that he was communicating with this woman. One day, I did something unfathomable. I opened his email and read and email between the two of them that was such a slap in my face. Why did I feel compelled to read this? There were I love yous and sexual references that made me physically ill. He point blank asked me if I had done this...I at first denied but then said that I had. Distrust - I lied to him. It was just a defense mechanism...but something I have always done.

Since this email discovery, and my lying, he has completely pulled away. He states that for our marriage years, he has struggled to make me realize that he just needed to feel respected and I continued to do whatever I wanted to do. He was placed on medication from a counselor many years ago, that he somewhat blames on me. He states that for many years, he has had to conform to whatever everyone else wanted him to be, and now (he is off the medication) states he will be doing what he wants to do regardless. He states that God has placed doors in his life that he has prayed for discernment. And based on his faith, he has opened these doors. He states that he did not go looking for another relationship but that God placed this person in his path, therefore, it is a God send.

At first, I blamed God. I thought God was punishing me for all the wrong things that I had done in my past. Now I realize that God does not make mistakes. He saw the path that we were going, and He opened our eyes. I don't know why it took this many years for me to want to make a change and work on my marriage, but it has. I just don't have the trust from my husband to make him believe that our marriage is worth working on. We have come to a decision in the last few days that we will "legally" stay married for our girls; but he is not willing nor wanting to have anything more with me. Just friends. He still wants to continue this relationship with this other woman; who by the way is married with children, and lives many many miles away. He has never officially met her.

I want to support him but my feelings overwhelm me. I have never felt such heartbreak and devastation. I am so alone and have to fake happiness because of our girls and friends and family. I am not eating, not wanting to be around anyone, and emotionally struggling. Please help.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 01:49:46 PM »

Strugglingwife,

I can only imagine the pain you are feeling right now.  This is the same situation as a man who is a comes home from work..  does his own thing.. sits in front of the TV.. and only pays any attention to his wife when he wants sex.  She is so turned off by him after years and years of not getting what SHE needed... so she completely withdraws, cheats on him, or files for divorce.

A smart man at this juncture would "wake up" and start meeting her needs to the best of his ability.  Problem is... she doesn't trust it... she thinks it's all a manipulation tactic to get her to GIVE to him again.  It takes time, effort, and patience on the man's part to show that his change is REAL.  Sometimes it works... and the couple can move forward... other times.. it's "too little...to late"

So... StrugglingWife,  here is my advice to you,

Understand that his needs are simple...  He needs admiration, respect, an attractive looking wife, domestic support, and the big one... Sexual Fulfillment.

After having more than one of these needs unmet for so long...  it's easy for him to take the viewpoint that you are incapable of meeting them ever.

Therefore... you have to start meeting his needs... to the extent that he will allow you to.
Let him get comfortable being around you and try to have fun and not talk about the relationship so much.
Last of all...  Don't FAKE happiness.  Instead, enjoy REAL happiness with your girls, your friends, and your family.  Accept the reality of the situation for what it is... for a while.

If he hasn't warmed up to you in say...  2-3 months...  then you need to insist he make a choice.  He can choose to have his Fantasy of an online love... or he can choose the REAL love from a warm, kind, and loving wife!

I'd be willing to bet that he would not be so thrilled with his Fantasy if he ever were to meet her face to face.

Hope this helps..
David
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 03:32:24 PM »

Thanks for your words. I have felt such an immense eye opening experience today, just realizing the fact that I can not do anything to change his mind by moping around, staying emotionally depressed, and overwhelming him by trying to manipulate him to love me.  I have to grow myself - be more attractive physically, intellectually, emotionally and spiritually. I am struggling trying to find the words to suggest that we attend a marriage session. I am afraid because he has voiced that our marriage is over, and we are remaining "married" only for our girls. So to suggest he attend a marriage session with me is just me having "false hope" of recreating our marriage. But I can't give up....I can give him the space and hope he considers going with me; even if it just serves the purpose of growing us as individuals so that we are better for our girls.

Any suggestions?
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 12:29:49 PM »

StrugglingWife,

You are on the right track here.  If you have to manipulate someone in order to stay with you... then that isn't love... it is imprisonment.  Detaching and letting go of someone who is free to leave, but chooses to stay, that's love. 

Now.. I understand you have an arrangement to stay "married" for the kids sake.  This is good for the short term.  It gives you time to improve yourself and work on increasing your own self worth.  He may warm up to you in time if he notices the changes in you.  But after 2-4 months... he is still not warming up to you... then it would be the appropriate time to bring things to a head and get answer out of him.  He can choose to keep the online relationship going... or end it and move towards a better future with you.  But if he remains steadfast in this online relationship... with a person he's never met,  the end the marriage and move out.  He gets NO MORE from you.  No time, no money.

You deserve a healthy relationship with a MAN who wants to be with you.  One whom you can GIVE TO and RECEIVE FROM.  Since your husband doesn't want to be that man...  he is stating his preference that another man take his place.

If your husband won't see the value in you... someone else will.

Hope this helps..
David

P.S. I answers your other question in a different thread.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 04:56:02 PM »

I understand your point...and I am truly trying to enjoy life right now! I have made some commitments to myself about staying positive; giving him the space he wants; making "girl night outs", etc. I am worried however that the more space I give him, the further away he gets. He still seems to find things that upset him that I do, even though I personally know I am different and attempting to change. He will not stop communicating with this woman, and even when I asked him not to do it while home with me and the kids, he became very upset. Stated that I was trying to control him. Do I just let him do what he wants? I struggle with everyday touches and telling him that I love him....is this wrong? He doesn't want any personal/intimate moments, but then I get blamed for ignoring him when I go to a room and read, instead of being near him (even though he has told me that I need to go away when I am in the same room)....

just need to know that I am doing the right thing....
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 06:38:28 PM »

You have every right to insist that he not communicate in front of you or the kids.  I once heard of a man who watched porn in his office while his wife and kids were home, they all knew what he was doing.  Then he tried it even when company was over.  Unfortunately DCF was called on them and there was an investigation.  The resulting divorce was very bitter.

You want to protect yourself and the kids too... so if your husband wants to communicate with another woman while you are home... he needs to do it in a locked room.  Since he knows what he's doing is wrong, make him hide in the corner to do it, instead of out in the open.

Meanwhile... it WILL take time before he will acknowledge that you are more pleasant to be around and that you are changing.  But he will see it in time.

When you are around him and he is not misbehaving... give him a light touch on the shoulder while you pass by... don't linger too long. 

When you are about to read...  tell him "I am going into my room to read... unless you have another idea of what we can do together."  Try to keep heavy conversations to a minimum,  don't nag at him,  give him praise when he actually does something to merit praise.

Again it will take time... and you have time.  Continue to work on yourself... you are already starting off very well... and I'm proud of you.

Later... when you've reach that point in your own development... you can get him to make a choice.  But right now it would be a mistake to do that too soon.

David
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 06:53:39 PM »

Thank you David - your encouraging words are so helpful right now. My goal is to continually pray to God that I remain strong and positive. I know the right things to do...it's just that I miss him so much. That one thought is my downer! I am afraid to make any suggestions/comments at this time to him related to us because he gets so defensive.  Therefore, staying with neutral conversations or conversations related to the kids is my best option.

Please keep encouraging me! I will get through this...one way or another!
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 07:53:47 AM »

You have the right attitude!

Please keep asking questions and tell us about your successes and setbacks in your day to day life..  We're here for you.

David
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2012, 11:17:18 PM »

You are doing the Roth thing we always try to protect the family and stay together but the most important thing is your happiness and your live so...  Start thinking about you
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2012, 04:20:41 PM »

You are doing the Roth thing we always try to protect the family and stay together but the most important thing is your happiness and your live so...  Start thinking about you
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 10:49:29 PM »

A smart man at this juncture would "wake up" and start meeting her needs to the best of his ability.  Problem is... she doesn't trust it... she thinks it's all a manipulation tactic to get her to GIVE to him again.  It takes time, effort, and patience on the man's part to show that his change is REAL.  Sometimes it works... and the couple can move forward... other times.. it's "too little...to late
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