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« on: September 09, 2009, 11:40:45 AM »

My wife had an affair about six months ago with her best male friend. We had a child a little over two years ago and I did not know how to be a father, husband. I am trying to get over the pain from her affair but it seems that every time I try to talk about the way that I feel she gets standoffish and that just makes me loose it. I just want to know if the hurt ever gets better.

My wife is not a talker she almost always diverts serious conversations to things that do not matter or completely shuts down. I have tried everything I know to do but my patience is growing thin. It is not enough for me to try and show her that I am learning  how to be the husband she wants and needs (this is why she decided to come back) I am discovering that in order for my life to be complete I need to be happy as well.

How do you make the images in your head go away????
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 05:28:31 PM »

This is a very difficult situation to forget but you can learn to forgive and move on...you guys can definitely benefit from the LovePath 911 Seminar theres one coming up from September 18-20...I can only tell you this is the best thing that we have done for our marriage!
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 07:20:42 AM »

I concur with tbriggs - it is very hard, but it can be done.  But first, you have to choose to forgive, choose to heal, choose to let go of the pain, and choose to love. 

Don't give up on your wife - she has pain to deal with too.  And don't give up on yourself. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 08:03:09 AM »

Are you guys going to a marriage counselor?  If so, is it a "faith-based" counselor?

I agree with what's been said so far and add that your wife will need to be a willing participant in healing your marriage.  She will need to communicate what her needs are and be willing to learn what yours are as well.

Definitely, attend the Love Path 911 workshop.

Have faith that God will heal you.  He will replace the images in your head with better ones.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 03:11:26 PM »

The pictures in your head can be painful. I only know from an ex-girlfriend who cheated on me but you can torture yourself with it for sure. It really sounds like you need a third party. The LovePath 911 seminar is lead by an affair-recovery expert, Joe Beam. He helps you deal with what's going on instead of just preaching at you to forget about it. He also helps her see reality without preaching at her or trying to make her feel guilty.

Don't be clingy or needy around her, it will only do the opposite of what you're wanting. Show strength, confidence and joy -- that's attractive. You definitely need a third party who knows what he/she is doing. Don't settle for amatuer counseling. Again...you owe it to yourself and your marriage to go to the LovePath 911 seminar. You can find more information about it at http://www.marriagehelper.com/marriage_seminar.php
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 09:42:04 AM »

I can't get over the fact that I think she is still talking to him. It seems that the pictures come more and more often these days. I can not get her to go to marriage counseling she says she does not need it. And to be honest the pain of it all is starting to get to me. I would love to do the seminar but right now I am just starting a new job after being without work for 6 months and bills are so behind. I don't know if I really can move on from this.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 05:25:03 PM »

Even if she is not willing to go to marriage counseling right now, you need to start seeing a counselor for yourself.  My husband was not willing to go initially, so I went by myself and for myself.  You need to take care of you first.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 12:47:39 PM »

I can't get over the fact that I think she is still talking to him. It seems that the pictures come more and more often these days. I can not get her to go to marriage counseling she says she does not need it. And to be honest the pain of it all is starting to get to me. I would love to do the seminar but right now I am just starting a new job after being without work for 6 months and bills are so behind. I don't know if I really can move on from this.

That's tough and I'm very sorry you're dealing with this. I have a couple of suggestions that might help and I truly hope they do:

1. Give yourself permission to grieve and hurt over this. Don't fight it and don't be shocked or confused when you hurt. I think your response is very understandable and normal.

2. Remember, you have the right to leave according to the Bible. I'm not saying that you should but don't obsess over her as can happen when there's been betrayal like this. She should be in danger of losing you. Maybe she needs to know/feel that. I don't know. I'm certainly not suggesting you act like a child and try to bluff her with threats. But I think you need to feel that you aren't trapped in a life of wanting a woman who might want someone else. I also know that if you really love someone as you seem to love her, it's tough to think of leaving and you don't want to. But I think that if you want to stay and want her to stay that it actually might help if you see yourself as a man who isn't tied to her. The Bible gives you the right to divorce when your spouse has cheated and you need to at least know that in order to get past this obsessive neediness that can sometimes accompany the knowledge of a spouse's betrayal.

3. Try to talk her into going to LovePath 911. Tell her you're not asking her to make a commitment to you or say she loves you more than him or anything. You're just asking her to go to "see if things can be improved or not because that's something (YOU) need to know."

Be strong, confident and joyful around her....preferably about events outside of her. She needs to see that.

Be brave my friend.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 01:59:46 PM »

All these people are right. But I have walked in your shoes. It was 6 years ago and the fear has not gone away. Sometimes the hurt is still there. But what is important for me (and for you) I have made it because of my new best friend; Jesus. He will never stab me in the back. When I found out- I prayed and fasted for three days. I lived my life for Him and to serve Him.
 That is when she came to me and said, "I will do anything to keep our marriage."
 Be the servent of Him and she will find you attractive.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 10:04:09 AM »

Thank you everyone!! I have been trying to let things just be since my last post I don't think it is helping me so much but I can definatly tell a difference in her. She seems to be trying to make me feel her love for me. She has never been the type of person to talk say out loud her true feelings she tries to show me. That has been enough for ten years and I have decided that if I want the marriage to continue that will have to be enough now. This has made a huge difference in her but I still want to hear that she has chosen me and has decided to stay with me because she loves me. It is a horrible battle of will and faith.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 02:48:15 PM »

zcrum, that's great to hear that you can tell a difference in her! Whenever she does do something positive, praise her for it! Don't start jumping up and down and clapping your hands or anything that dramatic, but just let her know that you appreciate it. Give her a hug or just a touch of somekind, just to let her know you acknowledge it. That may have more of an impact than you think and maybe she'll start telling her feelings instead of "showing" them. Although showing them is good too :)

Just keep praying and stay strong!
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2009, 11:08:15 AM »

Thank you everyone for your words of support and for helping me to have a place to tell my story.

I am not sure where I stand right now I have been talking to a mutual friend of my wife and I a lot about things that are happening and it is really helping but I don't really feel right about it. There is nothing sexual going on with this friend and she is really helping me to cope with what my wife has done.

Also, My wife and I have had a few talks (not fights) and I can see a huge change in her. In fact she has even started being nice to me. This really is kind of freaking me out. She is still not talking to me but she seems to be taking the things that I say to heart and actually trying.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2009, 06:56:43 PM »

Be very careful about talking to a female friend about your wife. We are all capable of having an affair. You run that risk when you begin emotionally attaching to someone of the opposite sex!
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2009, 05:32:36 PM »

Healing takes time. Worry, anxiety, and hurt come when we hold pictures in our mind of what has happened or what we fear will happen. Peace comes from putting pictures in your mind of what can be and concentrating on that.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 07:51:12 AM »

Thanks, Joe!  That is exactly what I needed to hear today.

I have been struggling with memories and with trying to discern what was "real."  Around this time last year, Scott and I had a wonderful day at a fall festival at the local winery.  It was a fond memory, but now it is tainted by his affair.  I now know that he was involved with her then and had been for a few months at that time.  So, of course, I am questioning if that special time we shared was "real."  He insists it was and that it is still special to him, but I don't understand how it could have been.  He wanted someone else - he had probably been with her the day before or after that!  So, how could that day have been "special" for us?

That is just one example, and now it seems my entire year is somehow chronicled by his affair.  Special days that should have been "mine" (our anniversary, Valentine's Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas) and just ordinary days (February 26th - Discovery Day) are now overshadowed by the affair.  I sincerely want to get out from under the shadow and make new memories and create new pictures in my mind.

The festival at the winery is this weekend.  I didn't want to go, but now I realize I need to "reclaim" MY special days.  I'll start with this one and go from there.

Thanks again!   
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